Jade you are generally regarded as the worst CSM chairman and it is generally accepted every idea you had on how to run the CSM was wrong, why do you feel your input is useful here.

She has, however, fanned the flames of a volatile issue for her own perceived political gain. Rather than work with a team and possibly post a dissenting opinion after the fact, or even stress to her team the need for individual opinions, she goes off half-cocked without even discussing the matter with The Mittani himself. The lack of respect she has shown to her fellow CSM members in this thread convinces me she is not at all suitable for the post.

That, that right there. Explain to me how exactly this means mittens has to quit eve? Or the chair? Am I falling for a giant troll?

quoting so you cant edit

[quote=Jade Constantine]
Especially for those of us that are new to the council, I don't see any value in refusing to listen to every party involved first and foremost. Not just to the players, but to Alex, and to the CCP staff as well. It's a bit unfair to say that because most of us would prefer to get a full 360-degree view of the situation before speaking about it that it means we are somehow "closing ranks", or "laughing it off", or letting "the wizard" tell us what to say.

Jade, you've pretty much explicitly stated you're not concerned about condeming what Mitanni said, for you this is about condeming Mitanni's approach to the chairmanship.

Attacking the CSM for being silent and then attacking the many of us who posted stuff.. you dont have to do that. We get it.

How is coming out to condemn something that need's condemning causing a **** storm? pretty sure Mittani created that don't you think? If you are saying you are going to make another CSM's life more difficult and block what they do in the CSM on the basis of coming out and condemning what happened then you don't deserve to be on the CSM.

You are there to represent us and have our interests at heart, not to be some upset fanboi. If you can't work for the betterment of eve you don't belong there. The CSM needs to make it clear it doesn't support what happened, and that's all Issy did.

Oh and if you can't work with them for saying it, I take it you won't work with Mittani for coming out and saying pretty much the same thing, pretty sure he didn't run his apology by you and got your permission before posting it. Or are you going to just ignore that and be a hypocrite?

Nice alt bro. Mind posting the same on your main?

Going off this post and the regdates of both the accounts, I'm betting it's yours. Mostly because that would be funny, and you're... you.


e; then again that post didnt seem to be written with a thesaurus

I will give you credit where credit is due. You post poorly on your main. That puts you above at least 95% of people here.

But that was mainly meant as a swipe against whoever owns that sockpuppet. (It was you wasn't it)

No no, when you want to belittle Jade Constantine you point out that he ran a brothel in a video game about spaceships.

Meanwhile Second Life is right around the corner.

No, you're naive. Calling for someones death and harrasing someone is totally different. He didn't say "Go round his house and kill him".

I agree, it wasn't right but you're taking on not just the entire of null sec but the larger gaming community. This sort of stuff happens all the time. You don't think just because this was the first time someone said to do this publicly its not been said 1000 times before? Some people just play EVE to make sure you have a bad day.

So what is you're reaction to people user the 'N' word in both comms and local all over nullsec? Putting **** links (and actual stuff that might offend) in chat?

Your little witch hunt and 5000 post threads may have unintended consequences for EVE.

It doesn't mean he isn't a massive troll does it? This witch hunt is not only ridiculous but utterly naive.

Everyone needs to step back here for a moment and understand that while group discussion is important, and teamwork necessary to work on behalf of the players to get things accomplished with CCP, the CSM at the end of the day is 14 individual human beings.

Those that want instant gratification regarding a big CSM statement are going to have to wait. Everyone needs to talk about it, and frankly not all of us have heard all sides of the story. This is EVE. Nothing it ever as it seems.

Personally, without having been at Fan Fest, without having ever spoken to The Wis, without knowing what the CSM / CCP involvement is in the Alliance presentation preparation, I'm just not comfortable coming out and waving a sword with righteous anger without having listened to the full story so I can assess what the problem here is, and think about how we can prevent it from happening again. CSM7 haven't even taken office yet, we're still getting set up.

I really appreciate those of you in this thread that have shown respect for the fact that this is all happening literally while many of the CSM7 members are in planes travelling. Please give everyone a day or so to get home, get paperwork in, get into the conversation, and than we can get to work.

Its extremely premature to go doomsdaying about how we "can't deal with a crisis", and its certainly not fair to accuse those of us who want to handle this the right way as somehow lacking in morals.

Just to show that the Mittani really loves us all

92:46:27 AM) directorbot: Gentlegoons, While I have the spaceship council work on their pleas for my resignation pledge retraction I need my "lolapology thread" locked or otherwise removed from front page. Till further notice spam Roadhouse references until publord scum rage out and burn the thread.

*** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all, replies are not monitored ***

I think everyone who voted for Mitanni had and has a pretty good idea of who he is in this game and what his alliance does. Did he get drunk and carry it over the line? Sure. And now he has sincerly apologized for it.

Nothing about this situation changes anything about who The Mitanni was before FanFest or will be now. He remains an excellent chairman, elected with a record breaking +10,000 votes, with the experience and savvy the players need to get the best possible results out of the CSM process.

Like a proper adult he took responsibility for his mistake, personally apologized to the player, and has made one of the most heartfelt apologies a person can make to the players as a whole. I suggest we in turn, as a community, also show the maturity to realize everyone makes mistakes; it's how they deal with them that reveals their character. I am willing to accept his apology and move on.

Alexander Gianturco has my full confidence and support to continue as chairman of CSM7.

LOL

You got trolled by a serious internet spaceships brothel pimp that thinks she's relevant. Learn to internet and stop believing the first thing you read.

Jade, the Roadhouse spam came out of the MichaeltheRed's internet tough guy posts, wherein he explained to the Goonies that he would take them all on in a fist fight. And also that he is old enough to get into bars and gets into brawls.

If anything the Roadhouse spam was started by me. Because Roadhouse is just that awesome of a movie.

People have not been banned for less, as Mittens didn't break the EULA. CCP has no grounds to ban him from game. This isnt WoW

name them

Tellling a CCP dev to die in a fire in anger is a lesser offense than inviting people to shoot at another character and laughing at his alluding to suicide?

i will happily address this issue once jade has recognised the depths of his shameful wrongitude regarding the relevance of his eveo forum ban

lol I'm confused why folks are still ragging on Mittani. He's stepping down. He's gone. Whats the point in continuing to trash him after he's already taken the initiative and removed himself from his post?

I find your alliance ticker offensive. It's an obvious attempt to disguise the word "gay", a slur against homosexual people, by using a seemingly innocuous misspelling. It's pretty obvious to me that you are all deeply homophobic and, by using such a misspelling in a public arena, are calling for others to be homophobic as well.

Now, whether or not you are all genuinely homophobic really doesn't enter into this at all, right? Your intentions are perfectly clear: to make people homophobic.

Why does the venue matter? It's still offensive and people see it every day within the game.

So whether the janitor does it or not makes no difference because he's not a public figure tied into profit.

I see no difference between what The Mittani did and what happens in C&P on any given day in order to humiliate victims who try to bargain sympathy. In the end, it's all in the public record on the internet; medium makes no difference. The only reason this is such a huge issue is because it's The Mittani.

Retar Aveymone has asked me to convey "ahahahaha jade was so furious at being proven wrong he mashed the report button on every post until he got me temp-banned"

Well I'm bored of this whole charade but I AM looking forward to your entire alliance being solidly wardecced for an entire year or more

sigh you do know that the cost to wardec an alliance is like 50m plus 500k isk per alliance member look at test that's going to cost about 3.2b a week. good luck, you're going to need it.

]Obviously, if you are a cynical person you have an easier time being a **** in games, but that doesn't necessary mean you want people to kill themselves just because they got different goals and ambitions than you.. You are trying to tug this in all different directions in order to prove that Mittani is at least a borderline sociopath, but you are dealing in absolutes. There is a grayzone between good and evil, you know?

Care to provide proof of you claims? And even it's true, you can not blame and individual's real life actions on his digital corporation-founder.

If this is true, then I will rest my case. Please provide proof.

why are all the RvB posters gigantic babies? i thought you guys were based on the concept of constant fighting or something

Hey Jade, how does one get work as a virtual wh*re? (didn't know that word was censored) I know that you have lots of experience in this industry.

FWIW, your pic is really creepy.

[And Jade, I've seen you post before that you ran a "space brothel".

It was a nasty, but still nicer game back then.

ITT, extremist imperialist entity = people playing a video game wanting to have fun

Ah, I read a bit more into La Maison. I think the reason that Goonswarm hates you so much is because of your connection to BoB.

And you're still upset about that guy that died.

You know, Goons had a guy who killed himself. He was well loved in the community, too. They still make fun of him.

Face it, the only way Goons would go away is if CCP killed the sandbox. So you would have to kill off the game you enjoy to get them to leave.

By "they" I meant Goons. And by the guy who killed himself, I meant RoyofCA. Who as I understand it was well liked. What I mean by all this is that Goons will make fun of whatever they want, especially if it will get a rise.